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Mountain of Gold- The Euphrates
this article mentioned that Bible book of revelation mentions about drying up of this river.
I read current situation of water level and found this
The United Nations mission in Iraq warned in its March report that Iraq runs the risk of the Tigris and Euphrates rivers drying up completely by 2040.
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then I checked what Islam tells us about the Euphrates and I found this
The Final Hour will not come until the Euphrates river (which originates in Taurus Mountains in Turkey, flows through Syria and Iraq and ends in the Arabian/ Persian Gulf) will uncover a treasure (something very valuable) over which people will fight and die. It should be noted that this is a sign, which will precede the Mahdi only according to some Muslim scholars. Abu Huraira reported that the Messenger of Allah &#1589;&#1604;&#1609; &#1575;&#1604;&#1604;&#1607; &#1593;&#1604;&#1610;&#1607; &#1608;&#1587;&#1604;&#1605; said, ''The Hour shall not occur until the Euphrates will uncover a mountain of gold over which people will fight . Ninety-nine out of one hundred shall be killed and each one of them will say 'Perhaps, I shall be the one to succeed'.'' (Sahih Muslim). Another narration says that whoever is present at the time when the Euphrates uncovers a mountain of gold should not take the gold.
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so now, if mountain of Gold appears and a war begins among people for getting hold on it, will you consider it a sign of existence of God? and that prophets were true,... ???
 
Islam
Bible also mentions similar fight and killing
Revelation 9 : 13 The sixth angel sounded his trumpet, and I heard a voice coming from the four horns of the golden altar that is before God. 14 It said to the sixth angel who had the trumpet, &#8220;Release the four angels who are bound at the great river Euphrates.&#8221; 15 And the four angels who had been kept ready for this very hour and day and month and year were released to kill a third of mankind. 16 The number of the mounted troops was twice ten thousand times ten thousand. I heard their number.
 
Yes, probably so.
But you'll have to define 'mountain of gold.'
Every mountain on earth has minute particles of gold in it, I've heard. So every mountain is a 'mountain of gold'.
So how will we know this particular mountain of gold which you discuss? You're saying the whole thing is one big lump of processed gold?
If such a mountain appeared, it would probably make me believe in the prophets. Please let me know if it ever happens.
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whether it is a complete mountain of gold or something similar, as saying of Holy Prophet is mentioning, it will be something extremely valuable for which people will fight.
 
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Druidry
I wouldn't take it as a sign of the existence of the one-god, because that isn't my theology and I wouldn't interpret things from that framework. I'm functionally an atheist with respect to the one-god. I would respect how the followers of the one-god decide to interpret the event, because the interpretation is their right and their responsibility.
But if nothing else, I would take it as a sign that humans like to ascribe meaning to events, for better or for worse. I might also take it as an omen, but probably not because the only such divinations I pay attention to are the ones that directly pertain to my life or that happen in my presence.
 
I am an advaitist Hindu and a strong atheist.
Farrukh said: ↑
The Final Hour will not come until the Euphrates river (which originates in Taurus Mountains in Turkey, flows through Syria and Iraq and ends in the Arabian/ Persian Gulf) will uncover a treasure (something very valuable) over which people will fight and die. It should be noted that this is a sign, which will precede the Mahdi only according to some Muslim scholars. Abu Huraira reported that the Messenger of Allah &#1589;&#1604;&#1609; &#1575;&#1604;&#1604;&#1607; &#1593;&#1604;&#1610;&#1607; &#1608;&#1587;&#1604;&#1605; said, ''The Hour shall not occur until the Euphrates will uncover a mountain of gold over which people will fight. Ninety-nine out of one hundred shall be killed and each one of them will say 'Perhaps, I shall be the one to succeed'.'' (Sahih Muslim). Another narration says that whoever is present at the time when the Euphrates uncovers a mountain of gold should not take the gold.
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Abu Huraira quoted Messenger of Allah to say that it would be a mountain of Gold. You say that it will something very valuable. Don't you see the discrepancy in two statements? Whom should I believe? You or Messenger of Allah? Do you know better than the Messenger of Allah? Let Euphrates uncover and the mountain of gold, then we will know if the prophecy is correct or not. As yet there is no mountain of gold in Iraq.
 
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I don't know if this story is true or not, you can check it yourself, a city found under Barmuda triangle
but no nation seems to kill other nation for getting hold on this city.
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I don't know why you would think that an underwater city is valuable.
whatever will be found under water, it will be ancient, isn't it simple English? i'm not getting you.
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Well, I just don't think of a mountain of gold as 'ancient.' When you said 'ancient' I thought you meant some kind of man-made objects. But it's not important.
Anyway, I don't see how any river can uncover a mountain of gold. Mountains, by definition, rise thousands of feet into the air. If a mountain of gold suddenly rises out of the Euphrates, though, I will begin to suspect that the prophet really did speak for God.
 
That's the wonderful thing about prophecy..
He's already gone from mountain of gold, to "something valuable people will fight over"
So, with those criteria.. Large oil mass, or "black gold" would fit,
Or a supply of gold ore that a religious person would consider "mountainous" so that they can apply the prophecy, our a small golden necklace someone once lost, made of gold and just barely mountain-shaped enough to force into the prophecy.
It maybe a mountain of sand, that looks gold when the light hits it correctly, or pretty much absolutely anything else that can be twisted to be force fit into the prophecy...
Go hop into the "how science proves the Koran" threads to see how close to literal you "have" to stay, as long as a religious belief is involved.
 
That's the wonderful thing about prophecy..
He's already gone from mountain of gold, to "something valuable people will fight over"
So, with those criteria.. Large oil mass, or "black gold" would fit,
Or a supply of gold ore that a religious person would consider "mountainous" so that they can apply the prophecy, our a small golden necklace someone once lost, made of gold and just barely mountain-shaped enough to force into the prophecy.
It maybe a mountain of sand, that looks gold when the light hits it correctly, or pretty much absolutely anything else that can be twisted to be force fit into the prophecy...
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Yeah. I'd love to see an actual detailed prophecy sometime.
On 6/9/14, at 14:12:01 GMT, the stars in the constellation Orion will rearrange themselves to spell out the word YAHWEH. After 22 seconds, they will go back to their original positions. Every astronomer and most civilians on the right side of the planet will be able to observe and photograph this event.
Now that's a prophecy we could hang our hats on.