Documentary: The Secret Life Of Lester Piggott > Betfair Community > Horse Racing
Report Percy Filth • January 4, 2013 7:07 PM GMT
He makes Dettori look like a 10lb claimer
He makes Dettori look like a 10lb claimer
Report workrider • January 4, 2013 7:30 PM GMT
was that programme ever shown on tv anaglogs ....?
was that programme ever shown on tv anaglogs ....?
Report Anaglogs Daughter • January 4, 2013 7:49 PM GMT
Yep 'Secret Lives: Lester Piggott' was on 9pm on 10 December 1997, Channel 4.
Yep 'Secret Lives: Lester Piggott' was on 9pm on 10 December 1997, Channel 4.
Report Anaglogs Daughter • January 4, 2013 7:50 PM GMT
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/the-inside-track-1297210.html
Report mange • January 4, 2013 7:51 PM GMT
Has he brought a drink since................
Has he brought a drink since................
Report Anaglogs Daughter • January 4, 2013 7:52 PM GMT
Sir Henry has long been forgiven since that programme
Sir Henry has long been forgiven since that programme
Report Anaglogs Daughter • January 4, 2013 7:53 PM GMT
That secret retainer deal doesn't go on nowadays .....much
That secret retainer deal doesn't go on nowadays .....much
Report clouded leopard • January 4, 2013 7:59 PM GMT
missed that one , would love to see it
missed that one , would love to see it
Report sweetchildofmine • January 4, 2013 8:10 PM GMT
there you go
there you gohttp://youtu.be/j8iJ70Pimvw
Report posy • January 4, 2013 8:11 PM GMT
Benson (mate of Lucan),Sangster (womaniser),Posgate (think he was knownas goldfinger and involved in Lloyds scandal.......Willie Carson ...what a motley crew!
Benson (mate of Lucan),Sangster (womaniser),Posgate (think he was knownas goldfinger and involved in Lloyds scandal.......Willie Carson ...what a motley crew!
Report geordie1956 • January 4, 2013 8:16 PM GMT
As a person a **** of the worst kind - as a jockey simply the best there will ever be
As a person a **** of the worst kind - as a jockey simply the best there will ever be
Report acey deucy • January 4, 2013 8:19 PM GMT
He could do no wrong in my eyes.
He could do no wrong in my eyes.
Report salmon spray • January 4, 2013 8:20 PM GMT
I seem to remember St Henry wasn't so saintly.
I seem to remember St Henry wasn't so saintly.
Report sweetchildofmine • January 4, 2013 8:23 PM GMT
the first thing that crossed your mind when looking at a race was ''whats piggott riding?''  if he was on one of yours your confidence levels went into orbit, if he was riding a rival you suddenly werent so confident
the first thing that crossed your mind when looking at a race was ''whats piggott riding?''  if he was on one of yours your confidence levels went into orbit, if he was riding a rival you suddenly werent so confident
Report motley01 • January 4, 2013 8:24 PM GMT
Fcuking genius of a man, there will never ever be another jockey like him. Pure class
Fcuking genius of a man, there will never ever be another jockey like him. Pure class
Report Shanelee1966 • January 4, 2013 8:24 PM GMT
F**k em all Lester, you were right all along.
F**k em all Lester, you were right all along.
Report Shanelee1966 • January 4, 2013 8:25 PM GMT
sweet & motley know
Report ribero1 • January 4, 2013 8:26 PM GMT
Can't even get the names right,ross benson,lol,charles ffs.
Can't even get the names right,ross benson,lol,charles ffs.
Report clouded leopard • January 4, 2013 8:31 PM GMT
cheers sweetchild
Report Big_Issue • January 4, 2013 8:37 PM GMT
Blimey, must be a slow news day today AD.
Blimey, must be a slow news day today AD.
Report geordie1956 • January 4, 2013 8:42 PM GMT
2 races spring to mind - El Pig riding The Minstrel to beat Hot Grove in the (I think from memory) the 1976 King George and winning the Derby on Roberto - would be banned for 12 months now but I defy any other jockey to win on either horse
2 races spring to mind - El Pig riding The Minstrel to beat Hot Grove in the (I think from memory) the 1976 King George and winning the Derby on Roberto - would be banned for 12 months now but I defy any other jockey to win on either horse
Report motley01 • January 4, 2013 8:46 PM GMT
If he'd been around to ride Frankel, it of never come off the bridle
If he'd been around to ride Frankel, it of never come off the bridle
Report acey deucy • January 4, 2013 9:02 PM GMT
Very True !!!!
Report apple wine • January 4, 2013 9:07 PM GMT
#livinglegend The ride on The Minstrel to trump hot grove (1977 derby, my first as a veiwer) & Claire Baldings cast off was different gravy.(as already noted would now probably result in a long ban)! Long live King Lester!!!!!!!
#livinglegend The ride on The Minstrel to trump hot grove (1977 derby, my first as a veiwer) & Claire Baldings cast off was different gravy.(as already noted would now probably result in a long ban)! Long live King Lester!!!!!!!
Report workrider • January 4, 2013 9:14 PM GMT
thanks for that sweetchildofmine , a really fascinating film ..pure magic...henry made a right balls of that eh.....
thanks for that sweetchildofmine , a really fascinating film ..pure magic...henry made a right balls of that eh.....
Report reculver • January 4, 2013 9:47 PM GMT
Was in a box at Newmarket about 8/9 years ago,in walked Piggott with Neal Wilkins,the hairs on the back of my neck stood up as he picked up a glass of champers and stood looking out the window beside me in a pair of Ray Bans, i thought a million memories looking at him, The sinatra of the singing world and the Mcqueen of the acting world...,i did speak to him and he was quite chatty,gave me a 6-4 loser but i'll forgive him.
only 2 Legends left , him and Sir Henry.
Was in a box at Newmarket about 8/9 years ago,in walked Piggott with Neal Wilkins,the hairs on the back of my neck stood up as he picked up a glass of champers and stood looking out the window beside me in a pair of Ray Bans, i thought a million memo
Report Franky Four Fingers • January 6, 2013 10:33 AM GMT
Interesting documentary ... Not a suprise to hear  Benson ( The Scout ) saying how he went round Fleet Street trying to get the Piggott/St George/Cecil story "hushed" up ... A case of the Gravy Train aka the Racing press circling the wagons ?
Interesting documentary ... Not a suprise to hear  Benson ( The Scout ) saying how he went round Fleet Street trying to get the Piggott/St George/Cecil story "hushed" up ... A case of the Gravy Train aka the Racing press circling the wagons ?
Report moondan • January 6, 2013 11:33 AM GMT
I was at an evening meeting at Windsor back in the 60s and Willie Carson was riding a 0/3 on shot in a 7 furlong maiden, lester was making the running and as they entered the final half furlong Willie come along side and tried to do a Lester on Lester, cheekily laughing at poor Lesters efforts, 10 yards from the line Carson was a neck up laughing his head off and seemingly cruising while Lester was all out. 10 yards later and Carson was a head down and facig a 7 day ban which he duly recieved after being escorted from the unsaddling enclosure for his own protection.
That cured Willie who without Piggot would have been racings number 1.
Hard to judge different eras but not sure this generation could teach those guys anything.
I was at an evening meeting at Windsor back in the 60s and Willie Carson was riding a 0/3 on shot in a 7 furlong maiden, lester was making the running and as they entered the final half furlong Willie come along side and tried to do a Lester on Leste
Report The Knight • January 6, 2013 11:39 AM GMT
For anyone who might, wrongly IMO, think that Piggot was not the best jockey of all time search YouTube and watch him coax Commanche Run home in the 1984 St Leger. Cauthen, a genius himself, does everything in his power to to get the second past the winner but Piggot just keeps finding a bit more and a bit more....
Yes, he was a bit flawed as a person but characters like him are desperately needed in the game today.
For anyone who might, wrongly IMO, think that Piggot was not the best jockey of all time search YouTube and watch him coax Commanche Run home in the 1984 St Leger. Cauthen, a genius himself, does everything in his power to to get the second past the
Report salmon spray • January 6, 2013 11:47 AM GMT
Nobody is disputing his prowess as a jockey.
As a bloke he was and probably still is a w*****.
Having said that there were one or two others who were lucky not to face charges over the income tax fraud.
Nobody is disputing his prowess as a jockey.As a bloke he was and probably still is a w*****.Having said that there were one or two others who were lucky not to face charges over the income tax fraud.
Report Dr Crippen • January 6, 2013 12:09 PM GMT
What did Piggot do when riding a horse, that any other top jockey couldn't do?
The horse can only gallop as fast as it can gallop.
What did Piggot do when riding a horse, that any other top jockey couldn't do?The horse can only gallop as fast as it can gallop.
Report salmon spray • January 6, 2013 12:16 PM GMT
Yes you could save a lot of money by getting rid of jockeys. The horses could be like greyhounds and chase an electrified carrot on a stick.
Yes you could save a lot of money by getting rid of jockeys. The horses could be like greyhounds and chase an electrified carrot on a stick.
Report sonofshinner • January 6, 2013 12:20 PM GMT
you must be joking dr.
you must be joking dr.
Report moondan • January 6, 2013 12:23 PM GMT
Dr Crippen, 2 things really, his timing  and his strength.
Like McCoy there is somthing different about the real greats, perhaps self belief aswell.
A few months back on the morning line, Tony was asked who he felt were the up and coming Jockeys---
"There are no up and coming Jockeys" he replied.
Dr Crippen, 2 things really, his timing  and his strength.Like McCoy there is somthing different about the real greats, perhaps self belief aswell.A few months back on the morning line, Tony was asked who he felt were the up and coming Jockeys---"The
Report sonofshinner • January 6, 2013 12:23 PM GMT
the bobbing aussies were good in the piggot era.
the bobbing aussies were good in the piggot era.
Report Dr Crippen • January 6, 2013 12:50 PM GMT
his strength.
Where does that come in?
his strength.Where does that come in?
Report 1st time poster • January 6, 2013 1:02 PM GMT
he nicked the commanche run ride off chris macarron much to the disgust of cumani,mcarron said he,d be playing tennis instead,
it absolute pished it down on leger day in the paddock after  commanche run won ,piggot quipped to reporters ,
wonder how the tennis went,
he nicked the commanche run ride off chris macarron much to the disgust of cumani,mcarron said he,d be playing tennis instead,it absolute pished it down on leger day in the paddock after  commanche run won ,piggot quipped to reporters ,wonder how the
Report Anaglogs Daughter • January 6, 2013 1:35 PM GMT
You verily fecked that all up 1st time poster
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/the-inside-track-1297210.html
Piggott's addiction to success had a two-fold effect on his fellow jockeys, as can be seen from the story of the 1984 English St Leger. Commanche Run was favourite for the race, the final Classic of the season. Owned by Ivan Allen, the horse was trained by Luca Cumani who had a retained jockey in Darrel McHargue. As retained jockey the mount was definitely McHargue's - definitely, at least, until Piggott arrived on the scene.
Piggott has always said that Ivan Allen "insisted" that he, Piggott, rode Commanche Run. But Allen, who is based in Singapore, told us something different. "Lester kept on ringing me up," he recalled. "He told me that McHargue couldn't ride a bicycle and eventually I gave in."
McHargue, an American, was devastated but kept his feelings to himself. When asked what he would do instead, he told the press he would be playing tennis.
Luca Cumani picks up the story: "On the way to the races it was pouring with rain and Lester was reading in the paper that Darrel had said he'd be playing tennis. He turned around to his travelling companion and with a wry smile, he said, 'He won't be doing that either'." Cumani tells the story as an example of Piggott's humour.
You verily fecked that all up 1st time posterhttp://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/the-inside-track-1297210.html Piggott's addiction to success had a two-fold effect on his fellow jockeys, as can be seen from the story of the 1984 English S
Report ged • January 6, 2013 1:41 PM GMT
That film shows a couple of stills of Piggott grabbing Lequeux's whip in the Grand Prix de Deauville.
The original (moving) film of the incident is on youtube, with Julian Wilson talking to him about it:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH3S5kq2oSg
He was only riding for 2nd anyway (and failed).
That film shows a couple of stills of Piggott grabbing Lequeux's whip in the Grand Prix de Deauville.The original (moving) film of the incident is on youtube, with Julian Wilson talking to him about it:-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH3S5kq2oSgHe wa
Report ged • January 6, 2013 1:48 PM GMT
sorry - got 2nd - (but relegated by stewards)
sorry - got 2nd - (but relegated by stewards)
Report xmoneyx • January 6, 2013 2:05 PM GMT
one of my first ever bets was a horse Jupiter island---3f out it was tailed off last by about 15lengths--if betfair existed it was 1000/1
Piggott finished like a train an took it on the line
one of my first ever bets was a horse Jupiter island---3f out it was tailed off last by about 15lengths--if betfair existed it was 1000/1Piggott finished like a train an took it on the line
Report Dr Crippen • January 6, 2013 2:15 PM GMT
Has there ever been a jockey who got himself boxed in on the rails as often as Piggott did?
I saw him at Wolverhampton at the old track, he'd got himself completely boxed in like a prat with nowhere to go.
Then the horse on his outside dropped back allowing Piggott to pull out and get up on the line going like a rocket.
Of course the scribes called it a perfectly timed run, while everybody in the stands called it terrible ride.
Has there ever been a jockey who got himself boxed in on the rails as often as Piggott did?I saw him at Wolverhampton at the old track, he'd got himself completely boxed in like a prat with nowhere to go. Then the horse on his outside dropped back al
Report never give up • January 18, 2013 11:40 PM GMT
ttt for madvlad
Report MadVlad • January 18, 2013 11:49 PM GMT
thnx never
thnx never
Report tonkability • January 19, 2013 12:14 AM GMT
Was staying in the same Premier inn near Wimledon about 7 years ago night before Saturday Derby greedy greedy man .
Was staying in the same Premier inn near Wimledon about 7 years ago night before Saturday Derby greedy greedy man .
Report MadVlad • January 19, 2013 12:20 AM GMT
^ I think he sacrificed more than most of us ever will in life.
^ I think he sacrificed more than most of us ever will in life.
Report Do wah Diddy • January 19, 2013 10:57 AM GMT
WHEN HE WAS IN PRISON I WONDER IF ANY ONE SAID TO LESTER GET ON MY BACK LESTER AND ILL GIVE YOU A PIGGY BACK ROUND THE CELL
WHEN HE WAS IN PRISON I WONDER IF ANY ONE SAID TO LESTER GET ON MY BACK LESTER AND ILL GIVE YOU A PIGGY BACK ROUND THE CELL
Report acey deucy • January 19, 2013 11:13 AM GMT
Did A lot For Charidee.
Did A lot For Charidee.
Report Do wah Diddy • January 19, 2013 11:15 AM GMT
SO DID JIMMY SAVILLE